I'm a jaded post punk punk rocker, you got a problem with it? I never dug the fashion element, nor the angry element. I always loved the political and consciously rebellious elements. I missed the real punk era, the Vandals, Sex Pistols, Cramps, et. al. I did catch the waning tide of op ivy, dead kennedys, mxpx, pennywise, nofx, nomeansno, etc, etc...
